# Reduce power consumption for MangOH Red

**URL:** <https://mangoh.discourse.group/t/reduce-power-consumption-for-mangoh-red/2909>\
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**Created:** [September 12, 2019, 3:19am UTC](https://mangoh.discourse.group/t/reduce-power-consumption-for-mangoh-red/2909 "2019-09-12T03:19:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![psi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/mangoh.discourse.group/psi/32/896_2.png) [@psi](https://mangoh.discourse.group/u/psi)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 3:19am UTC](https://mangoh.discourse.group/t/reduce-power-consumption-for-mangoh-red/2909/1 "2019-09-12T03:19:15Z")

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I’ve searched this forum and there are no clear guides on how to reduce the power consumption of the MangOH Red. Is there a guide for disabling hardware, either via the hardware switches or via GPIOs?

Currently power consumption averaging is around 160mA (@ 5V), with gnss and radio turned off. Is there a way to disable wifi and bluetooth, or other devices?

I am measuring power over the USB when connected to CF3 USB.

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**Author:** ![dfrey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/mangoh.discourse.group/dfrey/32/303_2.png) [@dfrey](https://mangoh.discourse.group/u/dfrey)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 5:14pm UTC](https://mangoh.discourse.group/t/reduce-power-consumption-for-mangoh-red/2909/2 "2019-09-18T17:14:06Z")

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I don’t remember the specifics, but I think there is something you can do to save some power by disabling the battery charging capabilities of the system. Do you need battery charging?

Also, please read through the [Legato Power documentation](https://docs.legato.io/latest/legatoServicesPowerMain.html) to get some ideas of how you might be able to change you software to more effectively save power. If you have the `devMode` app installed, you will need to remove that to allow the device to enter lower power states.

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**Author:** ![psi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/mangoh.discourse.group/psi/32/896_2.png) [@psi](https://mangoh.discourse.group/u/psi)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 9:07pm UTC](https://mangoh.discourse.group/t/reduce-power-consumption-for-mangoh-red/2909/3 "2019-09-24T21:07:17Z")

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Thanks. I have tried those and it’s all marginal power savings. Shutting down all services saves the most power, I need to spend some time and document everything.

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**Author:** ![asyal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/mangoh.discourse.group/asyal/32/78_2.png) [@asyal](https://mangoh.discourse.group/u/asyal)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 3:37am UTC](https://mangoh.discourse.group/t/reduce-power-consumption-for-mangoh-red/2909/4 "2019-09-25T03:37:59Z")

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What features do you want to use on the platform?

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**Author:** ![psi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/mangoh.discourse.group/psi/32/896_2.png) [@psi](https://mangoh.discourse.group/u/psi)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 4:01am UTC](https://mangoh.discourse.group/t/reduce-power-consumption-for-mangoh-red/2909/5 "2019-09-25T04:01:46Z")

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Hi Asyal,

I’m mainly wanting to use GPS, the modem (WP8548) for networking and SMS, also an IOT card which allows serial communications. All other peripherals are not necessary.

Cheers,  
Simon

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**Author:** ![asyal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/mangoh.discourse.group/asyal/32/78_2.png) [@asyal](https://mangoh.discourse.group/u/asyal)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 4:02am UTC](https://mangoh.discourse.group/t/reduce-power-consumption-for-mangoh-red/2909/6 "2019-09-25T04:02:54Z")

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Are you ok to make hardware mods to the board? Like removing resistors etc.?

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**Author:** ![psi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/mangoh.discourse.group/psi/32/896_2.png) [@psi](https://mangoh.discourse.group/u/psi)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 4:06am UTC](https://mangoh.discourse.group/t/reduce-power-consumption-for-mangoh-red/2909/7 "2019-09-25T04:06:17Z")

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Yes, I can do that. What resistors can be removed? And what power improvement could I expect?

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**Author:** ![asyal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/mangoh.discourse.group/asyal/32/78_2.png) [@asyal](https://mangoh.discourse.group/u/asyal)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 4:07am UTC](https://mangoh.discourse.group/t/reduce-power-consumption-for-mangoh-red/2909/8 "2019-09-25T04:07:39Z")

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Quite a bit actually. What numbers are you wanting to have and in what modes?  
I’ll need to dig through some of our test numbers and send that to you tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![psi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/mangoh.discourse.group/psi/32/896_2.png) [@psi](https://mangoh.discourse.group/u/psi)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 4:16am UTC](https://mangoh.discourse.group/t/reduce-power-consumption-for-mangoh-red/2909/9 "2019-09-25T04:16:14Z")

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> [@asyal](#):
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> What numbers are you wanting to have and in what modes?

Anything helps really. I have pretty much the default configuration at the moment.

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**Author:** ![asyal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/mangoh.discourse.group/asyal/32/78_2.png) [@asyal](https://mangoh.discourse.group/u/asyal)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 11:49pm UTC](https://mangoh.discourse.group/t/reduce-power-consumption-for-mangoh-red/2909/10 "2019-10-08T23:49:43Z")

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Can you try the following:  
\*Mediatek at reset (AT!WIOCFG=25,4,1)  
Measure current: 50-75mA  
Measure current USB SS mode: 30mA

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**Author:** ![psi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/mangoh.discourse.group/psi/32/896_2.png) [@psi](https://mangoh.discourse.group/u/psi)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 10:58pm UTC](https://mangoh.discourse.group/t/reduce-power-consumption-for-mangoh-red/2909/11 "2019-10-09T22:58:26Z")

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Thanks @asyal, this saved around 30mA. However the command should be `AT+WIOCFG=25,4,1`

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**Author:** ![asyal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/mangoh.discourse.group/asyal/32/78_2.png) [@asyal](https://mangoh.discourse.group/u/asyal)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 11:15pm UTC](https://mangoh.discourse.group/t/reduce-power-consumption-for-mangoh-red/2909/12 "2019-10-09T23:15:41Z")

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Thanks for that.  
…here are the numbers we get  
Radio is ON: 150-$400mA  
• Radio OFF (cm radio off): 140-180mA  
• Mediatek at reset (AT+WIOCFG=25,4,1)  
o 50-75mA  
o USB SS mode: 30mA

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**Author:** ![Redferne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a9a28c/32.png) [@Redferne](https://mangoh.discourse.group/u/Redferne)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 5:52am UTC](https://mangoh.discourse.group/t/reduce-power-consumption-for-mangoh-red/2909/13 "2021-01-21T05:52:50Z")

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I have similar a problem. A mangOH Red board with WP7702 modem. I cannot get below 36mA in suspend. Is there some other things that can be done to get down to below 5mA?

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**Author:** ![jyijyi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/mangoh.discourse.group/jyijyi/32/997_2.png) [@jyijyi](https://mangoh.discourse.group/u/jyijyi)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 7:09am UTC](https://mangoh.discourse.group/t/reduce-power-consumption-for-mangoh-red/2909/14 "2021-01-21T07:09:52Z")

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Did you put module into PSM mode or ULPM mode?

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 10:52am UTC](https://mangoh.discourse.group/t/reduce-power-consumption-for-mangoh-red/2909/15 "2021-01-21T10:52:46Z")

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Radio is off. I’m using kernel pm\_suspend autosleep.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 11:50am UTC](https://mangoh.discourse.group/t/reduce-power-consumption-for-mangoh-red/2909/16 "2021-01-21T11:50:16Z")

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Maybe you can try at!powermode command

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 12:59pm UTC](https://mangoh.discourse.group/t/reduce-power-consumption-for-mangoh-red/2909/17 "2021-01-21T12:59:55Z")

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AT!POWERMODE=0

OK  
AT!POWERMODE?  
!POWERMODE: mode=0-DISABLE, status=-12-Not attached to network

OK

No change in power consumption.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 1:31pm UTC](https://mangoh.discourse.group/t/reduce-power-consumption-for-mangoh-red/2909/18 "2021-01-21T13:31:03Z")

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How about equal to 3

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 3:47am UTC](https://mangoh.discourse.group/t/reduce-power-consumption-for-mangoh-red/2909/19 "2021-01-22T03:47:20Z")

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Still not possible to get below 37mA. Any ideas?

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/mangoh/original/2X/b/bda27220ae84c152c4828404c3bd00515a3c1f20.png)

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 3:56am UTC](https://mangoh.discourse.group/t/reduce-power-consumption-for-mangoh-red/2909/20 "2021-01-22T03:56:40Z")

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is it in ULPM mode? ( i can see there are spikes so I suspect if this is in ULPM mode)  
how did you measure the module current?  
In whole mangoh red board? or the current going into module?

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